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#11d ago
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After decades of incredible WDW vacations, we are now really strongly considering the idea of purchasing a DVC contract. The trouble is it looks like Lakeshore Lodge will tick all of our boxes. Do you recommend we hunt for a deal now through the resale market for a home resort we know we already love or hold out until Lakeshore hits the resale market? I cannot see buying direct making sense as we don't feel the direct perks are strong enough. My biggest fear is that much like the Riviera or Disneyland Hotel we would feel trapped in having no flexibility to use our points at other resorts with modern restrictions.

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#21d ago
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Buy where you love… and the sooner the better. ;)

#31d ago
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Heartily agreeing with Chili327 on buying where you love now if at all possible.

You could start with an affordable resale contract and later add on enough direct points to meet the required minimum (currently 150 points) at either that resort or when Lakeshore goes on sale. Lakeshore is likely to have restrictions common to the most recent new resorts. (Boooo! Hiss!) All the more reason to buy in at an older resort now (direct if you can) and enjoy that immediately.

The reason to think seriously about buying direct is that the perks offer more than merely merch or restaurant discounts. Consider how much you might enjoy Moonlight Magic and similar special events, exclusively for direct buy members who’ve bought the required minimum. If you think you may add to your initial direct contract later (via direct or resale), buying the minimum points required keeps you eligible as long as you own that contract. MM is tremendous fun, we think. We walked onto Toy Story our first time doing MM, nearly did on Rise of the Resistance. Try that trick during regular hours. Ain’t gonna happen.

Given what fate can toss at us unexpectedly, we think it wisest to buy smaller contracts after buying in at the minimum unless you’ve a serious case of addonitis. That way, you can sell one/some of those and still have the perks. 50-75 point contracts go speedily at primo prices to those writhing in the throes of addonitis. ;-) We definitely know that!

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#41d ago
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Heartily agreeing with Chili327 on buying where you love now if at all possible. You could start with an affordable resale contract and later add on e...

Thank you for the insight, Dotness. Hate to be a naysayer but if I spend that amount of money on a direct contract I would really like guaranteed MM access. The fact that I hear stories of people online clicking with the fastest fingers while the website crashes in hope of maybe getting MM tickets does not sound very magical. I also feel I missed the ship whenever the direct buy-in minimum was much lower. The barrier to entry right now feels quite high at 150 points although I know it will only go up from here. Your advice about multiple smaller contracts makes a lot of sense regardless of direct or resale. At the end of the day I ask myself if $15K-$20K extra justifies the extra perks.

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#51d ago
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Thank you for the insight, Dotness. Hate to be a naysayer but if I spend that amount of money on a direct contract I would really like guaranteed MM a...

It’s not just the extra perks. It’s access to any current and future DVC resort that they build. This could be important post 2042. The food and merch discounts add up as well.

I also think we need to be careful about the hype of any unfinished resort. DLL is going be a massive resort that’ll probably be easy to trade into at 7m because of its size and we have no idea what the pricing, dues, or point chart will be.

Have you considered CCV?

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WelcomeHomeKenny remarked: The fact that I hear stories of people online clicking with the fastest fingers while the website crashes in hope of maybe getting MM tickets does not sound very magical.

I certainly understand your objections to MM. Yeah, “MM slots” doesn’t seem magical, I agree.

Admittedly, I’m biased because I got in so quickly my head spun the first time we went to MM. Hubby kept texting me from work asking was I in the queue and where in line. I couldn’t answer for checking to make sure I was entering everything accurately. Hubby was going nuts wondering what was happening. This time, he got in right away.

So, ya never know what the magic might do.

P.S. Thought I ought to clarify about getting the required minimum in case someone reading what I said above thinks you can get there by buying enough small direct contracts to total 150 points. You can’t, unfortunately.

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#71d ago
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I wouldn't recommend buying Direct for Moonlight Magic perks. You could use the money you saved to go to 1 paid After Hours event each year and get a similar experience and probably save money, Moonlight Magic is also never guaranteed and it is a lottery on whether you get in or not.

The one direct perk that imho makes sense to buy direct is the Sorcerer Annual Pass. For $919 (renewal rate) + tax, you are getting access to WDW almost for the entire year (only blackouts are Thanksgiving weekend and the dates leading up to and between Christmas and New Year).

Compared to buying an Incredipass you're saving $450 per person, so for a family of 4, you're saving $1800/year. Depending on the difference between direct and resale, you could make up that difference in just a few years.

If you don't plan to buy an Annual Pass or need one then the other big miss from buying resale is the resale restrictions which only allow you to stay at either the original 14 resorts or your own home resort if you're buying into one of the newer associations. That could be an issue if you want to stay somewhere other than your home resort.

The other perks of direct membership are just gravy imho but remember any of the direct benefits, including the Sorcerer pass could go away at any time and you shouldn't buy direct with the expectation that those benefits will always be there.

Of course, I do wonder how many free soda's I've drank from the lounge and if its enough to have justified buying direct sometimes 🤣

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#81d ago
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It seems very possible Lakeshore Lodge may have similar resale restrictions as Riv, though I can understand why this is catching your interest.

In looking at resale contracts, options at 7 months, and the frequency we want to visit - we have bought resale twice. If a resort comes online we’d hate to miss, I’ll rent points there for a stay sometime. To us, the major savings is worth the limitations of not owning direct.

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#91d ago
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It seems very possible Lakeshore Lodge may have similar resale restrictions as Riv, though I can understand why this is catching your interest. In loo...

That could be a lot of renting to be anywhere close to EPCOT post-Jan 2042.

That may not be important in your specific situation…. but it will be here closer than we think…..

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#101d ago
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That could be a lot of renting to be anywhere close to EPCOT post-Jan 2042. That may not be important in your specific situation…. but it will be here...

So reasonable for sure! I won’t feel like I’m missing out not staying on Crescent Lake, but I’m sure many would. We’ll happily stay at AKL, Poly, GF, etc. and who knows, when our BRV expires, we’ll see what’s happening in the market at that time.

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#111d ago
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So reasonable for sure! I won’t feel like I’m missing out not staying on Crescent Lake, but I’m sure many would. We’ll happily stay at AKL, Poly, GF, ...

I think that’s why I like the “hybrid” member approach. You get all of the savings of resale and the ability to book at the O14 resorts + the discounts and a bucket of points that can be used at the new resorts.

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#121d ago
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I wouldn't recommend buying Direct for Moonlight Magic perks. You could use the money you saved to go to 1 paid After Hours event each year and get a ...

I really appreciate this response, Ryan. In my mind I was making the same comparison to paid After Hours events so MM didn't mean too much to me. We are a family of 3 so the Sorcerer Pass would take longer to offset the cost of buying direct. You make a very important point that the current benefits direct members enjoy are never guaranteed to persist. Buying resale at one of the original 14 resorts seems to best fit our situation and matches my risk tolerance for potential risk of losing more perks in the future as a direct member. I completely understand everyone's situation is different and can appreciate why others go direct.

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#131d ago
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I really appreciate this response, Ryan. In my mind I was making the same comparison to paid After Hours events so MM didn't mean too much to me. We a...

You could always start resale too and if you enjoy DVC enough decide to buy direct in the future.

Like AstroBlasters said, hybrid is where its at! :)

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#1423h ago
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We bought a 150 point resale contract at Saratoga in 2025 to “test” out the resorts across DVC. So far we’ve been to Saratoga Springs and Aulani. This weekend we are heading to the Poly. We also have reservations at the Boardwalk and Grand Floridian later this year.

We haven’t been members for a long time, but I completely agree with others on “buy where you love” / “buy where you want to stay”. I love Saratoga and the contract was very reasonably priced, however, we already know that we want to buy another contract in the EPCOT resorts bracket because we loooove EPCOT. The thought of having home resort advantage at an EPCOT resort puts me in the feels. Hope this helps.

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#1522h ago
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Thank you for the insight, Dotness. Hate to be a naysayer but if I spend that amount of money on a direct contract I would really like guaranteed MM a...

We've been to 6 Moonlight Magics since joining in 2022. As someone with fast fingers and well versed in technology compared to most users though, I'm glad the system is randomized. I'm also glad they limit the number of people that can go. Let's be real, if they let everyone in to Moonlight Magic, it loses some of the desirability of Moonlight Magic because lines will be long for rides and I'm not sure if they would even give out the free ice cream and etc. like they currently do.

That being said, that's not the reason you should buy direct. I don't even think the sorcerer passes should necessarily be thee reason you buy direct although it's a better reason to buy direct than Moonlight Magic. The most important reason why you should buy direct is if you care about staying at new resorts built after 2019 like RIV, LSL, CFW, VDH and etc. and can live with that decision until the end of your contract. Honestly the best way to go is a combination of both so you have the direct perks and some of the savings of resale. Nothing is saying you can't do both. However, if you have to pick one, my decision would be direct just because I'd have FOMO but of course I know that's a very personal decision.

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#1614h ago
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We've been to 6 Moonlight Magics since joining in 2022. As someone with fast fingers and well versed in technology compared to most users though, I'm ...

I agree that is the most compelling reason. That being said, I really appreciate the ability to use The DVC Rental Store to stay at any DVC resort including those built after 2019. On a cost per point comparison (including factoring in annual dues) it's more expensive than buying a resale contract to rent points but I suspect considerably less than buying direct given the current prices/pt. Thank you for your insight!

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#1713h ago
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I agree that is the most compelling reason. That being said, I really appreciate the ability to use The DVC Rental Store to stay at any DVC resort inc...

True, if you think it's just a one time thing or something that you'll want to try a new resort you probably are better off renting the one time.

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#185h ago
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It’s not just the extra perks. It’s access to any current and future DVC resort that they build. This could be important post 2042. The food and merch...

This can’t be overstated… the big resorts tend to be easy to trade into…

Plus let’s wait and see it finished and see if it is truly worth the subpar transportation, find out the points charts, and better learn about the resort…

My personal belief, and biggest thing in resale’s favor, is, at the moment, I do not think we are likely to see Deluxe resorts built with the uniqueness and convenience of the resale resorts anytime soon… plus, you know what the lid on the points charts will be..

I find Riviera’s points chart genuinely shocking… if LSL is a premium on top of that for boat transportation and bus only… idk…

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Another thought… we bought direct at VGF a few months after we bought our resale VGF… The direct 150 point contract was cheaper per point than our 60 point resale contract…

I don’t think I could ever buy anything more than a “top off” contract (probably no more than 40 points) direct at the current prices… at most resorts… Especially if you can be patient…

It’s why I find this BLT sale so funny… I’d love BLT direct, but not at those prices!

#202h ago
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This can’t be overstated… the big resorts tend to be easy to trade into… Plus let’s wait and see it finished and see if it is truly worth the subpar t...

Same with PVT’s point chart…. those Theme Park View Rooms…

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#212h ago
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If you think you will want to stay at LSL in the future- or Riviera or VDH or CFW-- then direct becomes very compelling. I have both resale and direct. One of my biggest reasons for purchasing direct was to have the option to stay at any resort. However, that said, there are so many awesome resorts to stay at if you purchase a resale contract that will allow you to stay at the unrestricted resorts. Your question was to buy another resort or wait for LSL to be on the resale market.... and that will probably take a couple years. They aren't even selling direct contracts now and then you'd have to wait for someone to decide to offer it for resale. It can take quite a while for the the new resorts to hit the resale market. Your best choice would be to buy resale at a resort you love now or wait for direct at LSL. Or do both!

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#221h ago
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My biggest concern with LSL is the point chart. Hopefully they keep it at a similar level to CCV and BRV.

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Thanks, all. You've all helped inform me in our specific situation. We already have trips booked staying at both Beach Club and BLT this year paying Disney rack rates. Going to complete these before we decide which resale to purchase. We have it narrowed down to AKL, Beach Club, Boardwalk, and BLT. I'd rather buy a decent resale contract we can afford cash than overextend ourselves into debt for a direct contact. Time will tell if that's the right decision but I figure if Riviera can already be found on resale, LSL would follow a similar track.

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#241h ago
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I guess I would simply say that buying direct will always be an option, and either way, LL is not finished yet. We bought resale first, then bought direct later. It allowed us to start staying at DVC sooner, rather than later. We got what I was willing to accept as a reasonable deal on direct just over a year later (VGF incentives with Big Pine Key opening). FOMO is real, but also, I can’t say I come anywhere close to getting my direct-money’s worth if we hadn’t snagged the really good incentives at the time in 2023.

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#251h ago
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I cannot see buying direct making sense as we don't feel the direct perks are strong enough.

@WelcomeHomeKenny I agree that direct perks are not a strong enough incentive to buy direct. Disney changes the perks all of the time, so depending on them to be the same year after year is a fool's errand!

For example, I started getting into DVC during the pandemic. At that time, the Annual Pass perk had been suspended, which made some sense. However, Disney didn't reinstate it for three years. There were a lot of members who bought direct because they depended on those savings. The online discourse on the DVCFan Facebook page was wild - everyone was so angry, for so long! Obviously it didn't deter me from buying DVC, but it sure did leave a sour taste in mouth about ever buying direct!!! Other examples of defunct perks include free valet parking, pool hopping, and even free park tickets in the 90s!

Do you recommend we hunt for a deal now through the resale market for a home resort we know we already love or hold out until Lakeshore hits the resale market?

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My biggest fear is that much like the Riviera or Disneyland Hotel we would feel trapped in having no flexibility to use our points at other resorts with modern restrictions.

My advice is almost always to buy where you want to stay. However, it is 99% guaranteed that Lakeshore Lodge will have the same restrictions as the other "new" resorts. As others have said, it will also take some time for a resale contract to hit the market - likely at least a year after the property goes on sale. The wait alone may be a deterant for your family.

So your choices are: 1. Purchase your favorite resale resort now, with no ability to stay at Lakeshore Lodge in the future, OR 2. Purchase resale Lakeshore Lodge in 2-3 years, and only stay at Lakeshore Lodge.

Regardless of which you choose, the easiest workaround would be to rent out your points for cash, or exchange them through a reputable site like DVC Rental Store. Obviously this is an extra step, and potentially a hassle. But it would free up cash to stay at whichever resort(s) you are locked out of.

Hope this helps, and let us know what you guys decide!

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#2659m ago
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I cannot see buying direct making sense as we don't feel the direct perks are strong enough. @WelcomeHomeKenny I agree that direct perks are not a str...

Wow. I was unaware of any of those defunct perks you mentioned. Would be such a bummer to lose them if you had them. As others had mentioned I can definitely see how a hybrid situation would be great if your financial situation allows. Thanks, Steff.

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#2756m ago
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I agree that you should buy now where you want to stay. Personally i will never buy at the restricted resorts like cabins at fort wilderness or riviera or Disneyland. If you buy direct they lose half their value if you ever need to sell and if you buy resale you can only stay at that resort. I like the freedom to stay at different resorts; and love my poly as most versatile. Easy to sell, easy to rent at best price but mostly 11 month window to reserve a great villa at a beautiful resort. Last trip we used our Boardwalk points to get Savanna view at Kidani . I love my 2042 resorts and would buy them again in an instant.

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#2828m ago
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My biggest concern with LSL is the point chart. Hopefully they keep it at a similar level to CCV and BRV.

Unfortunately I don't see that happening at all. Being a BRV owner, I love those low point charts, but LSL looks to have features over and above the Wilderness Lodge resorts so I expect the points to reflect that. Additionally, it's a new build so the points will likely reflect that. BRV was built long ago and CCV was a remodel of the existing hotel rooms with existing infastructure, so it's too hard to compare them to LSL. I'm expecting point charts between Riviera and Polynesian.

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#2915m ago
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If you want to buy LL resale, it'll take awhile for those contracts to hit the market. If you think you'll enjoy it so much that only staying there won't bother you, resale is the way to go! There's no harm in waiting to buy a different resale contract, unless its at a 2042 hotel. The clock is ticking there.

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#3015m ago
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Buying the minimum direct points to get all perks is what i did. I get the sorcerer pass for whole family every year. You need a family member from each household to get most oo AP deal. You can use those points at any current or future resorts. Buy resale for additional points (same use year) at another favorite resort from original 14 with less restrictions.

Too much stress on purchase price- i think the biggest costs for dvc are the annual dues

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